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DISCUSSION PAGE ARCHIVE #1:  CONTENTS


Here's an example of a proper post
Date: 09 Apr 2006
Time: 01:03:10
Remote Name: 63.17.34.91
Remote User:Comments
EXAMPLE ONLY: (Here's an example of a proper post) "Yeah...I didn't move into a neighborhood with a 
mandatory HOA either; there was NO mandatory HOA governing documents at my closing. It seems this thing 
has come out of thin air. I believe it could result in LOWERING property values. Many people do NOT want to 
purchase properties burdened needlessly by a mandatory HOA; especially a controversial or legally questionable one, 
and there are a lot of other houses with paved roads out there." Sincerely, Jane Doe and John Doe (required) 
youremailaddress@email.com (required) Mailing Address OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED Phone Number 
OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED Your Road Maintenance Agreement Name and Auditor File Number 
OPTIONAL BUT RECOMMENDED

Re: I don't want a mini government over me
Date: 10 Sep 2006
Time: 08:51:12
Remote Name: 4.242.114.16
Remote User:Comments
It seems like CRAHA may want authority over the neighborhood despite the lack of CCR's, other governing documents, 
and proper history and structure. I do not believe it should do the Kitsap County Government's job..besides, that's 
why we pay our taxes twice a year-for roads,etc!


HOW CAN IT BE MANDATORY WITHOUT CCR's??
Date: 10 Sep 2006
Time: 08:30:41
Remote Name: 4.242.114.16
Remote User:Comments
CCR's were not established in our neighborhood and I have not heard of any neighbor having such a comprehensive 
document on their deed....the alleged President of the CRAHA seems to be ignoring this fact, and keeps pointing to
 irrellevant documents that do not apply

NO "CCRs FOR CRAHA" EXIST ON MY DEED!
Date: 30 May 2006
Time: 13:43:11
Remote Name: 69.19.14.41
Remote User:Comments
How can the Cedar Ridge Acres Homeowners Association claim to be an enforceable Mandatory HOA when 
there are NO "CCRs for the CRAHA" noted on my deed? Are they trying to "drum up" authority after the fact 
(after real estate closing?) Sounds legally risky to me!


I LIKE YOUR GUIDELINES ON THIS SITE! 26 Jun 2006

CRAHA  (obviously posted by a CRAHA supporter)
Date: 13 Jul 2006
Time: 03:49:02
Remote Name: 69.29.245.221
Remote User:Comments
Sounds like CRAHA is doing right by the neighborhood.. It'd be good to turn it over to the county. Sounds like 
"some people" want eveyone else to pay their way so they can reap the benefits.

watchnetwork.org comment:  So, does this person probably believe that if CRAHA threatens  
to place legally-questionable liens, or misrepresents facts concerning alleged "debts," or otherwise 
stirs up "federal cases," between neighbors,  such actions constitute "doing right by the neighborhood?"  Hmmmmmmm.....interesting,,,,,


CRAHA
Date: 13 Jul 2006
Time: 03:47:19
Remote Name: 69.29.245.221
Remote User:Comments

Article 4
Date: 13 Jul 2006
Time: 03:50:12
Remote Name: 69.29.245.221
Remote User:Comments
Read over your purchase agreement.\

Re: CRAHA - creating lien opportunities?
Date: 08 Sep 2006
Time: 01:55:43
Remote Name: 66.82.9.84
Remote User:Comments
'Hope you aren't serious....is threatening legal homeowners with legally-questionable liens and 
unconsentual construction work "doing right by the neighborhood?" Based on the grapevine, there are 
quite a few neighbors upset by the questionable status of CRAHA-dissolve it!!

WE OWN OUR ROADS....NOT CRAHA
Date: 14 Sep 2006
Time: 02:36:34
Remote Name: 66.82.9.66
Remote User:Comments
CRAHA does not own our roads....and it never has!If you look at the surveys, you will see that each property owner 
owns their own section of the road, along with the person across the street from them...the property line being in the street 
center. It's already our right to turn maintenance of our road to Kitsap County, and they already use our taxes for public 
works! CRAHA does not have any legal right to "tax" us and it should not pretend to!

YEAH we already pay taxes! DISSOLVE CRAHA...NOW!
Date: 20 Sep 2006
Time: 02:35:17
Remote Name: 69.19.14.29
Remote User:Comments
We already pay taxes for "road maintenance." Also, according to legal analysis some have gotten, CRAHA's 
structure does not agree with some of the road maintenance agreements (i.e. INCORPORATION)- and those 
ROAD MAINTENANCE documents ARE contracts! Dissolve CRAHA....NOW!

Re: Article 4
Date: 30 Aug 2006
Time: 08:16:18
Remote Name: 152.132.10.73
Remote User:Comments
Yeah, done that! It's not there! Period! Been over it with a competent lawyer as well, not there. CRAHA has 
no legal authority to demand anything from any body, period!

Re: Article 4 is again a nonapplicable "smoke & mirror"
Date: 08 Sep 2006
Time: 02:11:10
Remote Name: 66.82.9.84
Remote User:Comments
'read the homepage article "rural freedom"; my question is, are there hidden agendas? Since there are no binding 
governing documents, and a corp. that is not supposed to be, then what is the land surveyor, realtor, mortgage broker, 
really been trying to gain? LIENS???POWER??$$$???

we already have a county government!"
Date: 10 Sep 2006
Time: 08:54:03
Remote Name: 4.242.114.16
Remote User:Comments
It seems like CRAHA may want authority over the neighborhood despite the lack of CCR's, other governing 
documents, and proper history and structure. I do not believe it should do the Kitsap County Government's job..
besides, that's why we pay our taxes twice a year-for roads,etc!

THE CRAHA SHOULD BE DISSOLVED AS OBSOLETE
Date: 10 Sep 2006
Time: 09:05:05
Remote Name: 4.242.27.164
Remote User:Comments
The CRAHA is obsolete and does not work with all the various Road Maintenance Agreements in the neighborhood...
each has unique terms and all the different Agreements do not lend themselves, (and some clearly do not provide) to 
and for a mandatory HOA....move forward with CRAHA dissolution!

It's over!
Date: 10 Sep 2006
Time: 11:29:53
Remote Name: 152.131.10.72
Remote User:Comments
I am just thankful that the CRAHA is finally living up to one of it's obligations set forth in 1995. There final and 
last goal, TURNING THE ROAD OVER TO THE COUNTY. The last chapter of CRAHA's existance. PERIOD!

Is forming "work parties" with questionable legal authority a trespassing liability if they enter people's property 
without consent?

Date: 14 Sep 2006
Time: 03:07:56
Remote Name: 66.82.9.88
Remote User:Comments
Is forming "work parties" with questionable legal authority a possible trespassing liability, or other liabilit(ies), if CRAHA 
"work parties" enter people's property without consent? A neighbor I spoke with was concerned that CRAHA does not 
have the authority to do this....I for one am not going to participate in a so-called "work party" and be made "liable" 
just because CRAHA may not be concerned about the legalities involved! Also, some neighbors have alleged property 
damage from CRAHA "work parties" and "maintenance." I also have read over the "Rural Freedom..." article on the homepage....Hmmm...damaged utility lines (multiple times-despite the easements) allegations of damaged culverts and 
ditches due to CRAHA "maintenance"...Well, the first "accident" "might" be an "accident," (but maybe not), the second 
time a judge could consider the "accident" to actually be negligence,(and maybe even the first time, depending on the 
circumstances) but the third time a judge might very well determine the event was intentional! We are all not a bunch 
of stupidities...we are property owners who have worked very hard for our real investments and I do believe CRAHA 
has been encountering resistance, especially after questionable lien threats! Final question....could a neighbor be liable 
along with Harries/CRAHA/CURRENT PRESIDENT for any unrightful lien/collection threats IF CRAHA lacks the 
legal rights/authority to make such threats, and such a neighbor supports and aids/assists CRAHA in such? This is 
quite a "interesting" thought and could present an unfortunate risk on an unwary and unsuspecting neighbor, to 
say the least! I would appreciate a response - but not from CRAHA!

YEAH we already pay taxes! DISSOLVE CRAHA...NOW!
Date: 20 Sep 2006
Time: 02:35:17
Remote Name: 69.19.14.29
Remote User:Comments
We already pay taxes for "road maintenance." Also, according to legal analysis some have gotten, CRAHA's 
structure does not agree with some of the road maintenance agreements (i.e. INCORPORATION)- and those 
ROAD MAINTENANCE documents ARE contracts! Dissolve CRAHA....NOW!

THE CRAHA SHOULD BE DISSOLVED AS OBSOLETE
Date: 10 Sep 2006
Time: 09:05:05
Remote Name: 4.242.27.164
Remote User:Comments
The CRAHA is obsolete and does not work with all the various Road Maintenance Agreements in the 
neighborhood...each has unique terms and all the different Agreements do not lend themselves, 
(and some clearly do not provide) to and for a mandatory HOA....move forward with CRAHA dissolution!

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